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Your child ask you who is more clever, you or me.

If your answer is i am more clever, you are in arrogance.

If your answer is you are more clever, you are in self-deprecation.

If you give your child one hundred various answers and still think that you haven't found the best answer, you are in greed.

If you answer your child with the same answer that you have used many times in many of his other questions, you are in stubborn.

If thinking this question causes the breaking of your leg while walking, you are in martyrdom.

If thinking this question causes your turning into a alcoholic, you are in self-destruction.

If you think you have no time answering this question at all, you are in impatience.





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The initial attraction of MT for me is to find an interpretation of everything instead of the thing itself. It’s so interesting for me to know what Michael’s view on Buddha, Jesus and Laozi, who they are, what they do and where they are from. The same as many of others, soul age is definitely fascinating. I somewhat believe in practice makes perfect (but I am kind of lazy in deeds comparing to my belief). It is much more convincing to believe in soul age than becoming enlightened suddenly or just through meditation. The observation of people in my life increased my interest to know more about MT. I think it is at least a goal for me to become more tolerant to live with people of different soul ages and overleaves, though I know I am still very unskillful in dealing with conflicts most probably due to my aggression mode.
Another factor is not the teaching itself, but the people involved. Many are old souls. And some are impressive old7. Their values make me feel so comfortable with. Their perspectives are so enlightening. It’s a great thing for me hear what older souls say about the world before entering that phase. So far, I think they are very smart and worth learning. Without Dave’s dedication to the website, my chance of knowing MT is small. Thanks Dave~

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we have ten fingers?
« on: July 07, 2011, 03:46:33 PM »
The most fundamental number (and not just according to Michael) of this universe, seems to be number 7. Which is not to say that there are no other special numbers.

The "specialness" of 7 can be validated in physics:
Musical scales have 7 tones, light breaks into 7 colors etc. It seems to me to be the number of "fragments" various energies in this universe break into naturally.

7 is special in many religions and I suspect this comes from various "prophets" or what we would call channels, obtaining some universal truths.

Anyways, Tina, like I said, you are not the first one to have asked Michael that question. I gave you the answer they have given, and they did not elaborate on that any further as far as I remember.

I actually appreciate your question because it indirectly made me rethink these things and how can we validate them.

Hugs~~~ :)

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we have ten fingers?
« on: July 07, 2011, 03:43:27 PM »
The MT seems to have a fondness for the numbers 3, 4, 7 and 12. I seem to remember a channeling where they said the fundamental numbers for this universe were 2, 3, and 7, and that other universes had different fundamental numbers.

On the other hand, some versions of string theory use octonian fields which is where they get 10 (or 11 if you add time) dimensions. (And no, I don't intend to discuss it; I've often expressed the notion that they'd solve all of the problems if they let Schrodinger's Kitten loose.)

10 dimensions of space as a concept has also been mentioned in Buddhist sutras. They said "10 fang shijie" in Chinese, which I translate word by word as "10 dimensional worlds".

My observation is that some numbers seem to come from common experience - four, for example, seems to be quite natural for directions. I have yet to hear of a culture that expresses directions in a hexagon, for example. Other things seem to be culturally dependent: Chinese mysticism, for example, uses 5 extensively. There are five elements rather than the western classical four elements.
Yes, earth element is a bridge and catalytic element of the other four elements in Chinese traditional culture. In my birth information, 3/4 are earth. So it's unlike astrology, it doesn't mean it's a fixed element.

Chunking things in 7s is a good way to organize information if people have to be able to hold it in their head and remember it.
But i'm still kind of superstitious about 7.

HTH
John Roth

YIH, yes it helps. Thanks a lot!

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we have ten fingers?
« on: July 05, 2011, 02:24:31 PM »
I can understand that Chiara DB was saying from the standpoint of someone who takes care of the forum. If I were the one who is responsible for answering all those questions on the forum, the first thing come to my mind when i see a question will also be that if i have the possible answer for the question and naturally tells if it is a "Michael question".

From my point of view, I don't expose to Michael teaching enough to tell if Michael can answer one of my questions. When a question comes to my mind, my first thought is that Michael might have answer for that question. There is possibility for the answer. And in the question "why do we have ten fingers and toes", it's possible that the over simplified question may sound like I am looking for reason for this why. But I am not asking why don't we have flippers. In that case, I really need to ask a biologist, or maybe a 5- year-old.  Actually i am asking if this number ten has some correlation with Michael teachings. I have to apologize that I unpredictably manifest at Baby1st level from time to time when I am speaking in English, I guarantee that I will be far more complicated speaking in my mother tongue. :-*

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we have ten fingers?
« on: July 03, 2011, 09:54:54 AM »
Ah yeah it would be, would it in. Fellow piano player? Unfortunately I think the 6th finger tends to be rather useless and limp (I have seen a picture of it).

Having always been a beginner  :(

Do you walk/stand? :P

Yes, but not on toes. Only ballet dancers do that.  ;D

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we have ten fingers?
« on: July 02, 2011, 03:23:44 PM »
I think this is a question for evolutionary biologists, not the MT.

I predict their answer will be predictable. :)

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we have ten fingers?
« on: July 02, 2011, 03:17:01 PM »
Actually someone once asked Michael this precise question before, and I think the context of it was - if our universe is based on number 7, why do we have 5 fingers or five toes on each hand/foot. And they answered something along the line of "whatever works best".

Ok, but toes are useless to me ;D

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we have ten fingers?
« on: July 02, 2011, 03:13:36 PM »
Why? and ten toes?

We don't all have 10 fingers. Some of us have 12.

John Roth

That is helpful to playing an octave.   8)

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General Discussion / Why do we have ten fingers?
« on: June 30, 2011, 09:49:49 AM »
Why? and ten toes?

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The Seven Modes / Re: Oh my agression mode...
« on: June 27, 2011, 01:14:41 PM »

Interesting. As a side comment, the technical MT term for overleaves that don't work together is that they abrade, sort of like grinding gears.

John Roth

I am dreaming of having a smaller gear, such as a caution mode. Sometimes i even think it is possible, because i am a spiritualist! hahaha ::)

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Cadres & Entities / Re: Entity4&7
« on: June 26, 2011, 08:29:42 AM »


i see, thanks ;D

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The Seven Modes / Oh my agression mode...
« on: June 25, 2011, 08:35:00 AM »
I wasn't surprised at all to know that i have a aggression mode when i got the my chart from Shepherd. Shepherd is Shepherd! On one hand this mode is quite useful to me, on the hand i feel that i am freaked out with it in life, since i don't have any solid role numbers anywhere of the positions. In the chart, I see this "aggression" overleaf as a standing-out color among all the other similar colors.

Being an artisan of an spiritual attitude, a goal of acceptance and low frequency, aggression mode runs like a Chief feature to me! It comes to the point why i chose this aggression before incarnating. And now i know it does serve as a great tool to solve my problems! On behalf of my essence, I thank the spiritual guides who had attended my overleaves design work. My major problem is that the soft and laid-back style make me always want to escape what's happening over there. I have an closed-eye attitude on what is going on. It's possible that in my past life times I was also like this. And being soft is familiar to me, to be aggressive, I still need some practice to master it. It sounds okay to be just laid-back, but the problem is that in the conflicts, the refusal of doing something caused a lot of anger unreleased. For many many year, i don't react to people who offended me. I had heavy kamma in this life time too. It makes things worse. I do have aggresion mode as a tool, which at that time still can't be served as a useful tool to help. It's possible that I was trapped in my past life habit. It feels like a swamp.Not until several years ago, I burst out...and later i gradually became more dynamic when people twist my mind. And aggression mode begins to run. Aggression helps me to react in a dynamtic way.

However, once it begins to run, i have the same problem with those people who have it as a mode. That's why i think it's like a chief feature to me. It contradicts my other overleaves.  :'(

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Cadres & Entities / Re: Entity4&7
« on: June 25, 2011, 07:06:23 AM »
On Michaelteachings.com
http://www.michaelteachings.com/entity_definitions.html

author unkown :o

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Seven Planes of Existence / Plane Connections
« on: June 24, 2011, 09:01:46 AM »
Dreams seem to be based on what happened in daily life. So I assume that there's a close connection between earth and lower astral plane. I don't have a thorough understanding of MT.And I am just wondering if the causal plane has a close connection with astral plane as well. How are they going to relate? Since one is focused on emotion and the other intellect. Or in causal plane earthly matter is still a source of study that can't be neglected though the entities like Michael may have more profound learning task than we can imagine?

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