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jo

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something tangible?
« on: August 24, 2011, 04:36:10 PM »

Just read this:
"Artisans are impelled to make things. They get restless if they do not create something tangible. It is their nature to produce physical objects. They generate an idea, and from within themselves they spew it out into material reality. They take the raw material in their hands and fashion it into things of beauty or function. Gadgets and gizmos are their stock in trade."
I wonder, how this fits with a lot of things artisans create and then express: music, drawing, any verbal expressions, thoughts, theories, writing.
Is sound (music), drawing, or verbal/written expression of a creation/idea/combination of ideas, something physical? ???

Greeting, jo
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John Roth

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Re: something tangible?
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 03:55:54 AM »

Just read this:
"Artisans are impelled to make things. They get restless if they do not create something tangible. It is their nature to produce physical objects. They generate an idea, and from within themselves they spew it out into material reality. They take the raw material in their hands and fashion it into things of beauty or function. Gadgets and gizmos are their stock in trade."
I wonder, how this fits with a lot of things artisans create and then express: music, drawing, any verbal expressions, thoughts, theories, writing.
Is sound (music), drawing, or verbal/written expression of a creation/idea/combination of ideas, something physical? ???

Greeting, jo

It certainly could be, but I think that those things are more in the purview of the sage.

John Roth

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jo

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Re: something tangible?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2011, 06:47:40 PM »

Okay. Maybe these things are more in the purview of the sage. But in the text it's also written, that there were inventor artisans, artist artisans and physicist artisan. And except the inventors, all are not producing something physical, what is "tangible".

Greeting, jo

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Re: something tangible?
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 08:53:40 AM »

Hey Jo, I'm an artisan and I have never been into stuff like crafts and all that kind of stuff...I only enjoyed building things out of lego's as a kid :D I don't think to be an artisan one has to be physically creating things all the time and I do believe it can very well be ideas which lead to creating something and drawing etc...Ahh im rambling now. My artisan role is more evident in my dreaminess and aloofness plus I dont like large groups of people and I am VERY good at daydreaming and I have been lost in my own world since I was a little kid. Maybe I just havent found the thing that I would enjoy creating...I do enjoy cooking sometimes and making up my own recipes...I guess that's creativity...+ playing the sims 3 and living out different funny scenarios and lives virtually :)

Do you know your essence twin and whether the soul is incarnate or discarnate? Mine is a discarnate Sage, and I read on some michael page that discarnate ones have a heavier influence on us and causes a lot of so called bleedthrough in our lives...So I am also manifesting a lot of sage qualities in this lifetime due to that. Somewhere I read that casting also plays a big part in our lives...+ ofcourse our soul age and goal and mode and everything does. For example, my goal is acceptance (im not really pushing forward in this life) + im old soul level 3 which is a stage of not so much outward activity..I guess thats why im not really creating that much right now. Maybe it would help for you to go through your own overleaves as well :)

Sorry for the long ramble,
Ocean (Sofia)
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jo

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Re: something tangible?
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2011, 07:17:10 PM »

Yes, by now i did that. I'm now pretty sure, that I am an artisan.
I have a scholar ET, and maybe he/she is discarnated. Additionally, i'm intellectual centered. So my creativity is mainly drawn to thinking. Maybe it's the emotional center, that makes you wanna draw paintings or something like that.
With a Goal of Flow I'm pushing even less forward. Just saw the translation of the positive pole, that's funny... ^^

Greeting, jo

PS: In the german teaching old 3 is the last outgoing tiring level in the cycle of incarnations (where you can "rise" to fame for the last time; at least that's what I've read). Which makes sense, because of the warrior energy. A bit confusing, as yet.
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Re: something tangible?
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2011, 10:16:12 AM »

Jo, you cant take it like something written in stone, always applicable, and to every Artisan. Moreover, just because someone is channeled as something, does not mean its correct. Most people take the seven Roles WAY to stereotypically. As I said elsewhere, that is about as accurate as doing the same with 12 sun signs. Things are way more complicated.

I am channeled as an Artisan and so is my mum. I am good at making things with my hands, but I can certainly go a long long time without making any. I mean years. I am more compelled to write, play, sing and express verbally. I am channeled as Sage casted.

My mum does none of that, and she nearly hates making things with her hands. She will do it, if its a necessity. She is also really rough with things. She is channeled as Warrior cast. She is definitely restless, alright. But the way to discharge that for her is being out and about, definitely not to sit and do crafts.
She is not even lost in her own world and all that. She also does not seem to display multiple inputs (which I do). She cooks, but is not a fan, and keeps moaning about it. And again, is really rough with it. "Ants in your pants" would describe her well.

As for rising to fame - do you mean in a particular area? Because there seemed to have been quite a few late Olds that were famous, however i think it was usually in a field having to do with spirituality/therapy/healing/ etc.
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Re: something tangible?
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2011, 02:35:27 AM »

Do artisans live in their heads a lot? I'd like to hear more about that. I know we were just talking about not stereotyping, so I'm asking with the understanding that we'd be painting with a broad brushtroke.
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Re: something tangible?
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2011, 09:01:36 AM »

Do artisans live in their heads a lot?
I definitely do, but I don't know whether it is because I am an Artisan.
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jo

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Re: something tangible?
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2011, 07:44:54 AM »

It certainly could be, but I think that those things are more in the purview of the sage.
John Roth
Hm, I somehow forget to keep in mind, that these people I thought of can have some sage (or 5th energy) influences, additional to being an artisan. So you are right.
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