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Soul Age / Re: 6th level mature
« on: May 26, 2011, 10:35:07 PM »
That's interesting, John - thanks.  I still feel like I'm in my 20's, maybe because I'm one of those sages who never grows up.   :D

BTW, I've never talked about my problems on the internet in my many thousands of posts on various forums, and rarely talk about them in real life.  If someone in real life wants to know how I'm doing, I give it two minutes max, then I'm on to something more interesting.  I'm talking about it on this forum because karma is an underlying issue with much of what is talked about, and especially how it relates to soul ages.

Soul Age / Re: 6th level mature
« on: May 26, 2011, 09:34:19 PM »
Because I've had major issues for my entire life, I've never been able to go through typical life stages like other people or follow through with the life plan I had in my 20s, which included a degree and career.  A few months ago, when I brought it up to my husband, he said it doesn't mean my life was less significant than others', it's just been different, which is how I now look at it.  It's not that I haven't had a good time, it's that my life has been very constricted in various ways.  Maybe since I'm an honorary Priest, I've felt a strong push to help the world in some way, which I haven't been able to follow through with to any great extent.  But I hope that I'm changing inside and working off karma, so this life will be overall a plus.  It would be hard to live a life thinking it's the only one.  My husband lives that way and feels stress and a lot of time pressure.

General Discussion / Re: My Michael Chart
« on: May 26, 2011, 01:54:33 AM »
Hi Nicholas - that's fascinating info!  I'd love to have a channeling on my cadre/entity.  If anyone comes across a cadre 9/entity 7, please let me know.   :)

Bodytypes / Re: Body types and Centering
« on: May 26, 2011, 01:42:27 AM »
This doesn't sound like dominance/submission. It sounds more like martyrdom (- victimization) or possibly impatience (- intolerance.)

As far as the chiropracter is concerned, see if you can find out how to put your neck back in yourself. You might be able to do quite a bit with practicing physical awareness of what that part of your body is trying to tell you.

Another suggestion: see a past life regressionist and make arrangements to see if there is any past life connection with the neck problem, and what your High Self (Essence) can tell you while you're in trance. Set expectations first - letting it go where it wants to is just setting yourself up. One key phrase that may resonate is "time line therapy."


John Roth

From this website about martyrdom:  “Martyrdom is the self-image of the "born loser", the "quitter", the "pushover", the "doormat". A person with this Feature sees himself as a weakling and a failure. He has a "defeatist" attitude.”  That’s not my inner attitude toward what’s been happening with me, and I’ve never had a defeatist attitude or consider myself a weakling or a failure.  That’s why it’s so weird that I’ve been attracting emotional abusers for the first third and the latest third of my life.  When I had the easier capability of leaving, I’d always leave the situation.  But anyway, it could be that it’s not dominance, and if it’s not, I’m not sure how dominance manifests in my life.  I’ve been somewhat disabled and stuck in a low-people situation for so long, it could be it just hasn’t had the opportunity to manifest.  Either that, or it’s not my true goal, since I’ve read that channels aren’t 100 percent accurate.

Soul Age / Re: 6th level mature
« on: May 25, 2011, 09:41:28 PM »
I'm a sage, 6th level mature, and I've had people tell me that mine is one of the worst/most difficult lives they've ever heard of, in almost every way.  So yeah, I understand 6th level mature, lol.  I'm lucky that I'm a sage, who can find fun almost no matter what is happening, that I have an attitude of spiritualist, and that I believe in life after death, so I don't feel like I've lost the only-one-lifetime lottery.   ;)

Male/Female Energy / Re: MF Energy
« on: May 25, 2011, 09:24:27 PM »
I'm a sage, and also have close bonds with males and can't connect well with females in real life, though for different reasons.  I have an intellectual/moving center, which connects well with many males, and my interests are more male-like than female in that I don't enjoy house activities such as cooking and gardening and much prefer to be out and about, including nature recreation such as hiking.  My 48/52 puts me close to male energy though far enough into female to enjoy subtle flirting on occasion.  ;)

Bodytypes / Re: Body types and Centering
« on: May 25, 2011, 05:40:57 PM »

I've lived long enough to see how my chart has played out and how it's helped or at times seemed to hinder me.  I still don't know about my goal of dominance - either I've failed at the task or I'll have to live longer to have that part manifesting.   Since I'm 6th level Mature, sometimes it seems like I'm running full speed just to keep up with the craziness.  :)

I sometimes think we have blind spots to our goals, which is why they often seem like revelations when we discover them and finally see first hand how they have been influencing us all along.

Some people manifest dominance in quieter ways than the known stereotypes. Do some soul searching on this. There may be an element of leadership in something you do, but it's not what you stereotypically think of as leadership. You do, for example, seem to have a capable and determined air about you.


I would have answered this a few days ago but I couldn’t remember what thread it was on.  I realized that my lifelong issue of being constantly put in situations where people try to dominate me from the negative pole is karmic, teaching me how to get into my own positive dominance in order to deal with the situations.  A typical example would be my chiropractor, the only one who could keep my neck in, being angry and even yelling at me on a regular basis for simple things such as asking if I should do yoga and going to another chiropractor when he was out of town.  I finally chose to be in pain rather than have him entirely take away my dominance every time I saw him.  Now I’m in another situation with a chiropractor in which he’s always right and I’m wrong, no matter what I say.  My life for many years has consisted of almost entirely these types of people, including relatives, so I can’t get away.  So yes, I can see now where my lifetime goal would be dominance since it’s been affecting my life since the day I was born, pushing me to learn how to attain my goal.  I recently read a tip that going to the positive of submission and from there to the positive of dominance can be helpful.

Male/Female Energy / Re: MF Energy
« on: May 19, 2011, 05:20:19 AM »
Wonder if we'd come across similarly on first outer energetic impressions... ;)

When someone first meets me I’m animated and probably enthused about something or another.  I have a lot of trouble coming across calm, together and professional, even when I want to.  So since you’re a King, probably not, unless someone sticks around long enough for me to get beyond dopey.  :D

Also Drury, I wonder if you'd relate at all to Katherine Mansfield (about whom Dave and I are a bit obsessed)? She seemed to have quite a few similar influences to you as well.

I’m not sure who that is, even though I googled.

Bodytypes / Re: Body types and Centering
« on: May 19, 2011, 05:11:42 AM »
Drury, thanks for sharing! Your body types and role/casting seem to go well together (mercurial is excellent for sage, and saturnine is quite good for priest).

I've lived long enough to see how my chart has played out and how it's helped or at times seemed to hinder me.  I still don't know about my goal of dominance - either I've failed at the task or I'll have to live longer to have that part manifesting.   Since I'm 6th level Mature, sometimes it seems like I'm running full speed just to keep up with the craziness.  :)

Male/Female Energy / Re: MF Energy
« on: May 18, 2011, 06:38:43 PM »
Same with me, I knew years ago that I was somewhere in the middle with just slightly more female.  I guessed 47/53 and it turned out to be 48/52.  I also guessed my husband was in the 60s with male, which also turned out to be true.

Elisabeth, it seems we have quite a bit of our chart in common, including M/F, 47 frequency, and the same body type.

Bodytypes / Re: Body types and Centering
« on: May 18, 2011, 05:27:30 PM »
My body types are Saturnian and Mercurial, with intellectual centering/moving part and Sage role with honorary Priest.  I think to others it can appear to be a little abrading, but I've never experienced it as such.  Until I was in a car accident and then came down with chronic fatigue, I spent most of my time on the go - tracking down information by visiting stores or people, backcountry skiing, hiking, swimming, waterskiing, any type of dancing, always with people, rarely by myself.  I remember one day before the car accident I went for a 15-mile hike, moved my belongings from one apartment to another, then went to a party, and I was a little tired by the end of the day, which was unusual for me.

People who knew that part of me were surprised that I could turn it off by reading quietly or sitting and talking for extended periods on the same subject, and some have mentioned that it was odd to get me into a deeper discussion then ask me if I wanted to go out somewhere, have me leap up and say Yes!, then run around rapidly and get ready to go and spend the night dancing.  To me it was all seamless, though I could see what they were talking about.  The Sage role had me bouncing around spontaneously and the Priest part had me focused on a mission, the intellectual centering with moving part had me alternating between stillness and activity, all of which could go back and forth at the drop of a hat.

I was lucky that my active body type would sometimes allow me to sit still without being antsy to move, but now in my life I have too much sitting still, which I at first fought and then needed to adjust to.  I used to spend almost all my time around people - talking, engaging in activities with them or reading - without spending much alone time just thinking for myself or looking to see who I was, so more stillness in my life was necessary for my growth.  Because so much of my chart was pushing me to move, including body type and impatience as chief obstacle, I’m lucky I had observation mode and intellectual centering to fall back on.

General Discussion / Re: My Michael Chart
« on: May 15, 2011, 03:05:07 AM »
Thanks Dave.   :)  I've been told that I'm complex, but definitely not sophisticated.   :D

The Roles (or Soul Types) / Re: POLL: What is Your Role?
« on: May 15, 2011, 03:02:21 AM »
Elisabeth, I hung out at an Enneagram forum for a while.  I needed to have my husband help me with self esteem issues within the first couple weeks.   :o  There seemed to be a lot of Enneagram 4/5/INFP/INTPs hanging out there.

I've been on other forums that allowed almost any type of trolling, and those forums both fascinated and traumatized me.  I finally had to let them go because they were skewing my view of the world.

General Discussion / Re: My Michael Chart
« on: May 13, 2011, 04:33:24 PM »

I think why the role is put with the ET on the role photos page is that ET bleedthrough (when discarnate) is likely to be more apparent in one's appearance than one's casting is... but I'll let Dave answer that one more fully...

Thanks for your explanation, Elisabeth, and I'll take this as an answer unless I hear otherwise.  :)

General Discussion / Re: My Michael Chart
« on: May 11, 2011, 05:35:21 PM »
What would be considered someone's secondary influence, ET or Cadence Position?  Mine are the same, but sometimes I'll see a person's type referred to as King/Artisan, for example, and I'm not sure what the second is referring to.  On this site, it seems to mean the ET, and I was wondering if that's universal:

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