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King / Re: Magnetic Kings
« on: August 29, 2011, 07:19:07 AM »
Excellent question, Elisa. That sums up some of why the concept doesn't really resonate with me. It would be nice to have a more detailed description from Michael on this topic.

Book & Movie Reviews / Re: Planet of the Apes
« on: August 29, 2011, 07:08:21 AM »
This is the one that is out in theatres now, called Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

Artisan / Re: Picky
« on: August 24, 2011, 04:36:19 PM »
jo, I might call that as being part of Impatience, since that feeling that there is something better out there but one is missing out on it is characteristic of Impatience. I think we would have to have some more examples to really figure out where this is coming from. For instance, being picky could also be an aspect of having a goal of Discrimination.

King / Re: Magnetic Kings
« on: August 23, 2011, 10:46:22 PM »
jo, BYOB means "bring your own bottle"  - it's said when people are having a party and they want everyone to provide their own alcoholic beverages :)

King / Re: Magnetic Kings
« on: August 23, 2011, 06:24:56 PM »
BYOB! 8)

King / Re: Magnetic Kings
« on: August 23, 2011, 04:59:03 PM »
Thanks for posting that, Betty. I still don't get how the concept of "Reunion" matches the purpose of a King. There are some other logical problems here IMO.

It's obvious that a Server gives Comfort, though I doubt that is the highest expression of the Server's purpose. I don't perceive comfort as a high spiritual value, and I would think that they would get people together for more than giving "profound comfort." Warriors fight for a cause, so the description of Advocacy fits, and "expanding freedom" is a worthy goal in my book. Priests want to transform people's consciousness from a lower state to a higher state, so Transformation fits, but making those within their circle "feel compelled to personally invest in the transformation of those fragments within their circle of contact" doesn't sound very spiritual to me.

Patronage is a bit odd as an activity for the Artisan, but I suppose in the context of getting a bunch of people to all contribute to a specific creative project, it kind of passes.

And that brings me to Scholar. I though invention was the realm of Artisans - what are Magnetic Scholars doing getting everyone together for the sake of an invention? Shouldn't they be getting people together to help gather more knowledge - maybe build a super-library? :D

As people within a Magnetic Sage's "kingdom" feeling "compelled to act as a Mentor within their own circle of contact as a means of implementing the specific theme of that Kingdom," that sounds as creepy and non-spiritual as the Priest one does to me. And the purpose of the Sage is to disseminate information, so you'd think they would be working with the Scholars somehow, on this exalted level of action.

Of course I could be totally misreading all of this or blocked by own my resistances, but this is how it appears to me at this moment in simultaneous time.

And so all these people are busy working on their themes and inventing stuff and "helping" others, while the Magnetic Kings are just there to throw a big theme party??? Wha?? :D I guess in that case I'm glad I'm a King. If I ever get a magnet, I'll invite you all to my party!!! It will be a pool party, and the theme will be "Chocolate, Sex and Star Trek." ;D

King / Re: Magnetic Kings
« on: August 23, 2011, 05:17:11 AM »
All of those seem to fit with the role except King - the purpose of the King is to get things done. How does reunion fit with that?

King / Re: Magnetic Kings
« on: August 22, 2011, 12:19:53 AM »
The whole concept seems like a vague piece of unvalidatable trivia to me. If someone feels like a Magnetic King and/or Some Other Role, I hope they have fun with it but I don't see why it matters much to anyone other than that person.

King / Re: Magnetic Kings
« on: August 21, 2011, 05:55:00 PM »
For real, Elisa! Sometimes I'm sure I have that negative magnet, especially online in Michael communities, haha!

King / Re: Magnetic Kings
« on: August 20, 2011, 05:31:06 PM »
If I am, then my magnet must be really weak ;D

Artisan / Re: Self-Delusional?
« on: August 20, 2011, 07:40:50 AM »
It means you fool yourself into believing things that aren't true.

False Personality / Re: Attraction to things, that don't make you happy
« on: August 17, 2011, 12:48:22 AM »
1) I think we are attracted to things that don't make us happy because we have learned somewhere along the line that those things will somehow protect us or keep us safe.  I think it is connected with chief features. For instance, I used to be attracted to men who were fearful of intimacy. That was very good for my CF of Arrogance, since it kept me from having to ever be soft and vulnerable with someone else and thus risk being criticized. I also learned to place a great deal of importance on my looks and sexuality as a kind of armor against intimacy - if I could overwhelm men with my "amazingness" in those areas, they could never reject me. Needless to say, these things were awesome for my CF but horrible for me. But I couldn't see that until much later, when I hit bottom and a wonderful Old Priest (not my current husband) came into my life and helped get me on a better track.

I remember being in the opera "Faust," and there were three dancers who played Mephistopheles's demons. They would dance around Marguerite and try to tempt her to do the wrong thing. These demons wore masks that were exaggerated versions of women's makeup - white skin, pink cheeks, big black eyelashes and red pouty lips. I realized that those demons represented our misguided habits and beliefs -- when we are caught up in their seductive spell, they appear beautiful and alluring. But once we realize, "Hey, those are demons, they want to hurt me!", we can see that they are wearing ugly tacky makeup, an ugly, twisted imitation of beauty, and we wonder how we could have ever found them beautiful. It was a big turning point for me in beginning to let go of the habits and beliefs I thought were protecting me or feeding me, but really just hurt me.

2) In my experience it is true that things inside of us can't just be made to disappear without being expressed in some way. The best we can do is shove them down into some dark corner of our psyche, but of course then one day they pop up, often in the most inappropriate ways. It is more difficult, but better, to try to get them out and deal with them as soon as possible. How do we do this? I guess you just start to implement self-acceptance. This doesn't mean that you think that everything you do, say or think is a-okay, but you do come to realize that there are reasons why we do/say/think what we do, and that those reasons are usually understandable and even rational, considering where they arose from. Then we have to decide if acceptance is enough, or if there is something we want to start to change.

Hope that helps! I have spent most of my adult life dealing with these exact issues, so if you ever want to talk at length about them, I'd be happy to :)

Introductions / Re: Introductions
« on: August 15, 2011, 05:17:54 AM »
LOL! Oh yeah, I forget sometimes, the barbed wire is so pretty here.... ;)

Introductions / Re: Introductions
« on: August 15, 2011, 01:30:14 AM »
And you are completely adorable, at least to me. Welcome, Raoul! :)

Introductions / Re: Introductions
« on: August 14, 2011, 06:20:55 PM »
Another King! Soon we will be ruling this board with an iron fist!! ;D Welcome Elisa! And welcome Juliand as well :)

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