Michael Teachings Study Group
The Seven Roles => King => Topic started by: Betty on May 17, 2011, 04:11:51 PM
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Can someone tell me: do all Kings become magnetic Kings at some point, or is it only some of them?
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Can someone tell me: do all Kings become magnetic Kings at some point, or is it only some of them?
Only some of them, and only 6th level old. It's a chance to get together with the people who've been part of their "kingdom" for many lifetimes. Think of it as a life-long King style party. Whether a King does this is a matter of choice.
John Roth
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you could ask chiara, if she is... :)^^ would be funny to know
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If I am, then my magnet must be really weak ;D
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So is there a negative pole of magnetic King that repels everyone? ;)
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For real, Elisa! Sometimes I'm sure I have that negative magnet, especially online in Michael communities, haha!
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I read something online in the Michael teacdhings that seemed to indicate that any role could be magnetic in the 6th old. Comments?
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The whole concept seems like a vague piece of unvalidatable trivia to me. If someone feels like a Magnetic King and/or Some Other Role, I hope they have fun with it but I don't see why it matters much to anyone other than that person.
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Here's what the teachings say (in part):
The entire concept of Kingdoms is based on a VOLUNTARY organization that evolves from a shared realization gained through individual experiences from across several lifetimes and the cohesion to act as a group in implementing a realization.
In highly simplistic explanation: Across your own lifetimes your Personalities and Essence may have noted on several occasions about an experience within the physical plane that you have decided “would be great” if it could be implemented. Eventually a fragment will “announce” to the Energy Ring that it is intending to focus on a specific implementation over time and fragments then “sign up” to be a part of that shared experience of implementation. Fragments who take on the task of leading a Kingdom take several lifetimes to “set the stage” for the eventual emphasis of that Kingdom.
Not all fragments will choose to be a part of a Kingdom. As we said, it is entirely voluntary and simply a means of gaining experience in yet another specific way.
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I read something online in the Michael teacdhings that seemed to indicate that any role could be magnetic in the 6th old. Comments?
I wouldn't be all that surprised to find that Sages have Audiences and Priests have Congregations in the same way that Kings have Kingdoms. If so, it seems entirely reasonable that most of the people in a Sage's Audience or the people in a Priest's Congregation could get together for one final huge gathering during the 6th level old.
The other roles? Doubt it. They don't tend to have natural leadership characteristics around which large groups of the same people cluster, lifetime after lifetime.
Would a Magnetic Old Glutton attract refrigerator doors?
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lol, John
actually, what it says is that each role will have a particular emphasis:
server - comforts
artisan - patronage
warrior - advocacy
scholar - invention
sages - mentoring
priest - transformation
king - reunion
It would interesting to ask Michael about any magnetic groups operating currently.
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All of those seem to fit with the role except King - the purpose of the King is to get things done. How does reunion fit with that?
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When a King takes on the task of being a Magnetic Old King, it takes on the emphasis of REUNION. Magnetic Old Kings emphasize an effect within their Kingdom of a “final gathering”, or a reunion among the entities of which they have been strongly connected. This Reunion usually has an emphasis, or theme, of experiences that help contribute to that reunion, but regardless of the theme, the end result will be in that of Reunion. Those who are a part of a Magnetic Old King’s Kingdom will then feel compelled upon their own to emphasize a drop in all barriers within their own circle of contact as a means to encourage Reunion. Reunion, then, will be the means through which that Kingdom’s theme is implemented
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Thanks for posting that, Betty. I still don't get how the concept of "Reunion" matches the purpose of a King. There are some other logical problems here IMO.
It's obvious that a Server gives Comfort, though I doubt that is the highest expression of the Server's purpose. I don't perceive comfort as a high spiritual value, and I would think that they would get people together for more than giving "profound comfort." Warriors fight for a cause, so the description of Advocacy fits, and "expanding freedom" is a worthy goal in my book. Priests want to transform people's consciousness from a lower state to a higher state, so Transformation fits, but making those within their circle "feel compelled to personally invest in the transformation of those fragments within their circle of contact" doesn't sound very spiritual to me.
Patronage is a bit odd as an activity for the Artisan, but I suppose in the context of getting a bunch of people to all contribute to a specific creative project, it kind of passes.
And that brings me to Scholar. I though invention was the realm of Artisans - what are Magnetic Scholars doing getting everyone together for the sake of an invention? Shouldn't they be getting people together to help gather more knowledge - maybe build a super-library? :D
As people within a Magnetic Sage's "kingdom" feeling "compelled to act as a Mentor within their own circle of contact as a means of implementing the specific theme of that Kingdom," that sounds as creepy and non-spiritual as the Priest one does to me. And the purpose of the Sage is to disseminate information, so you'd think they would be working with the Scholars somehow, on this exalted level of action.
Of course I could be totally misreading all of this or blocked by own my resistances, but this is how it appears to me at this moment in simultaneous time.
And so all these people are busy working on their themes and inventing stuff and "helping" others, while the Magnetic Kings are just there to throw a big theme party??? Wha?? :D I guess in that case I'm glad I'm a King. If I ever get a magnet, I'll invite you all to my party!!! It will be a pool party, and the theme will be "Chocolate, Sex and Star Trek." ;D
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I do think you are kind of misreading this or blocked by your own resistances, but it doesn't really matter. I am just passing on the information I've found because I think it's interesting. If you don't....well, that's your choice.
Although I don't understand what's creepy about any of this. They are compelled only after they have volunteered to be part of their magnetic group, so it's still voluntary.
And I don't believe kings are just there to throw a big party, although if you want to look at it that way, that's your right.
I'm not here to defend, confirm, validate, or reject the information. I'm just passing it along, and each person will handle it however they choose.
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It does say that because ALL of us eventually crave reunion, it follows that we will eventually find our magnetic King.
Not sure exactly what that means....think it's talking about reuniting.
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BYOB! 8)
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lol
after I posted, I started thinking....who says you can't have fun doing your thing...and....a good party does sound like fun :D
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Build your own blocks? System of a Down? ???
What does that mean? (BYOB)
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jo, BYOB means "bring your own bottle" - it's said when people are having a party and they want everyone to provide their own alcoholic beverages :)
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I wonder if there's a soul age and level that all the fragments have to be in order to participate in a magnetic kingdom. Or maybe a soul age/level range? Anybody know?
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I wonder if there's a soul age and level that all the fragments have to be in order to participate in a magnetic kingdom. Or maybe a soul age/level range? Anybody know?
I doubt if there's any hard and fast rule. Members of a kingdom probably have to have spent enough lifetimes with the King to make it worth while spending a lifetime together, so I'd think they'd mostly be old, possibly some late mature.
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The thing that I strikes me as odd about "reunion" is that it's only a reunion from the soul's perspective. Personality doesn't remember all those folk from past lives. So what's the theme of the project as personality sees it?
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Excellent question, Elisa. That sums up some of why the concept doesn't really resonate with me. It would be nice to have a more detailed description from Michael on this topic.
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The thing that I strikes me as odd about "reunion" is that it's only a reunion from the soul's perspective. Personality doesn't remember all those folk from past lives. So what's the theme of the project as personality sees it?
That could be said of all of the themes. In fact, it could be said of task companions, too. How many people remember their task companions from past lives? Yet they work together.
(For that matter, how many people remember anything or anyone from past lives?)
As far as the theme goes, it says that Kingdoms are the created gatherings, focus, and work of fragments who share a common, specific goal within the physical plane across time. Isn't that what task companions do, work together on a goal?
My perspective is that it's not for personality, it's for essence. And that working together on whatever theme is chosen results in the reunion of fragments.
Unless I'm missing something, I don't understand your problem with the reunion theme. I thought that was a given, that essences would want to reunite. Isn't that what we all do as we move through our evolution and progress to the Tao?
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I thought that was a given, that essences would want to reunite. Isn't that what we all do as we move through our evolution and progress to the Tao?
Exactly. So why is there a need for a Magnetic King, since that's what we are all inevitably doing anyway? What makes a group surrounding a Magnetic King different from a group of Task Companions or any other group working together? There is a certain vagueness about the concept here.
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Exactly. So why is there a need for a Magnetic King, since that's what we are all inevitably doing anyway? What makes a group surrounding a Magnetic King different from a group of Task Companions or any other group working together? There is a certain vagueness about the concept here.
Oh, I see what you mean. Well, according to what I've read, it's just another way of gaining experience in a specific way. It seems to be a larger group of fragments working together over more than one lifetime to accomplish a significant task.
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I thought that was a given, that essences would want to reunite. Isn't that what we all do as we move through our evolution and progress to the Tao?
Exactly. So why is there a need for a Magnetic King, since that's what we are all inevitably doing anyway? What makes a group surrounding a Magnetic King different from a group of Task Companions or any other group working together? There is a certain vagueness about the concept here.
They're larger groups, and not as well organized. Remember that the essential nature of the King is to organize activity. Task companions, sextets, quadrants, etc. don't need a King to function. One of the given examples was a Magnetic Old King who was an orchestra conductor; his "kingdom" had assembled as an orchestra.
John Roth