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How did this topic get changed from "how to tell people about Michael" to a discussion on sex switching?

The ripple effect in action from MeliaNamaste's last comment.

I'm going to put on the moderator hat and say to make a new topic to discuss sexuality.

John Roth

Well at this point we don't need too. Unless someone else has something to say on the matter, then -they- can make one

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I don't think it's a natural side effect at all.  I really don't see what the issue is here.  You switch genders with lifetimes; sometimes you're male, sometimes you're female.  I don't think your gender, sexual orientation, or psyche carries over into the next lifetime, unless there's a karmic reason for it to do so.

Okay, this is oversimplification of something that I think needs a more complex answer.  When you "switch" I'm still believing that there is a residual effect from the former life. From what I understand of the Michael teachings,[take note that at this point as I was writing an reply, words started to flow out, and I believe Michael then used my body as a tool to settle what is said so far about homosexuality.] Our conscious evolution dependent on reaching the internal monads propagating a flow of natural events that build up your progression forward towards new lifetimes. For now, it is certain that pressures on homosexuality are apparent in the natural progression of "life". What we can say for now is that homosexuality is an expression of an ideal focal point that the soul has chosen to accomplish within the specific lifetime. It is ideal then to say that no body is wrong in the matter of "why?" it happens and that it is just a natural phenomenon of life itself.

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How did this topic get changed from "how to tell people about Michael" to a discussion on sex switching?

The ripple effect in action from MeliaNamaste's last comment.



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I suppose the question is why does one want to tell others. Is it to simply share what you are interested in and what your "path" is? is it to share the teaching itself? And if so, then how? And is it right for the person you are trying to share it with? And if so, is it for them as is, or does it need some sort of - translation?

In the transcripts of the various Michael groups from 70s and 80s, Michael repeatedly says to some of the participants that they can teach people not only without mentioning the source (Michael), but even without talking at all, by their mere presence.

I can definitely see some of Michael students I have encountered so far, that they are themselves teachers and a lot of what they have to say does not necessarily make any reference to the teaching itself, yet it is totally congruent with it and often perfectly chosen for the right moment and the right people.

Why does one want to tell others? Well for me it's just because I enjoy learning about it so much, that I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't also. Probably the same reason why Einstein spend 3 hours lecturing his 9 year old nephew on his sailing boat about physics. * It's informative and fascinating. But yeah, once you start understanding all the acute dynamics of MT, mentioning where it comes from is unnecessary I agree. Michael then becomes just like a master guru to turn too when your stuck or needing of more knowledge.

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Maybe they've also found it helpful, because of the content in a Text of (I believe Joya Pope) on the website (under soul ages), wherein it's said, that old souls typically incarnate in the sex, they less prefer , to balance energy. Also it's written, that all old souls (and later mature) have subconscious contact to both female and male characteristics (or something like that, but you know what I mean).
But what you said, could be true, as well.

Greeting, jo

Yeah but not all homosexuality exists on the old soul paradigm. That was just meant in regards to having several lives of each sex so much that a balance is then obtained.

Like think about this, say your essence has been incarnating in a female body for 18(probably not uncommon) life times in a row, and now to further experiences and growth, it decides to incarnate in a male for once. Chances are that it's still going to identify with the feminine pysche a lot. Then perhaps after 2-4 life times in a male body, the essence finally grounds itself into the masculine psyche and adopts its native behavior.  Makes sense doesn't it?

IIRC, from what JP had channeled, the usual limit is about three lifetimes in the same body type before it's really a good idea to switch sexes. Sometimes mixed gender (LGBT) is chosen, sometimes it just happens and Essence accepts it because it won't impact what Essence wants out of the lifetime.



Okay, but still to me it seems it would be a natural "side effect" of sex switching. If it is chosen then how is the psyche programed to experience it? Unless we are all at the very core Bisexual, but greatly repressed from myriad of factors, then it is not until the old soul stage that distortions become un-twined and expression of the core is called to surface. Homosexuality is found in a number of different species around the world, yet its only us humans that experience homophobia. Animals are instinctive and emotional(core without abstractions), so is it us the people that are breaking away from our cores (cycle from the tao towards evolution) and segregating our bonds to the same sex in the process because of the innate provocativeness to procreate? 

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Maybe they've also found it helpful, because of the content in a Text of (I believe Joya Pope) on the website (under soul ages), wherein it's said, that old souls typically incarnate in the sex, they less prefer , to balance energy. Also it's written, that all old souls (and later mature) have subconscious contact to both female and male characteristics (or something like that, but you know what I mean).
But what you said, could be true, as well.

Greeting, jo

Yeah but not all homosexuality exists on the old soul paradigm. That was just meant in regards to having several lives of each sex so much that a balance is then obtained.

Like think about this, say your essence has been incarnating in a female body for 18(probably not uncommon) life times in a row, and now to further experiences and growth, it decides to incarnate in a male for once. Chances are that it's still going to identify with the feminine pysche a lot. Then perhaps after 2-4 life times in a male body, the essence finally grounds itself into the masculine psyche and adopts its native behavior.  Makes sense doesn't it? 

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Spirituality / Spirit Science.
« on: November 06, 2011, 09:14:10 PM »
http://www.esoterictube.com/spirit-science.html

Wow, these have got to be the cool and most informative vids on the internet when is comes to spirituality. We need to channel Michael about the flower of life. See what they have to say about it.

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Paranormal / Re: Paranormal Witness
« on: November 06, 2011, 05:08:01 PM »
Yeah but the dramatizations are based on eye witness testimonials. And on episode 3 they actually had old video tape footage of the  haunting from the story teller. You can see the door opening and closing repeatedly. Same with the stove door. Has there been channeling done on poltergeists? How can they make such tangible influences like writing on the wall without a body to possess or move an object across a room instantly(the cat statue from the back yard too the counter)?

http://fastpasstv.ms/tv/paranormal-witness/season-1/episode-3/


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If you're using a Ouija board, I presume you're doing some kind of protective ritual first? That isn't because there's anything inherently bad with the tool.

Yup, I always start by in-visioning white light coming down and basking me in protection. Then I'll say my little thing "I ask for protection and guidance from the guides who are with me, the angels high above me and the elements that surround me. I come in peace and seek nothing but the truth." Then almost immediately some one from Michael will come and greet me. But the sessions don't last long, and the information I collect is kinda fuzzy. I just relay the information back to them that I collect in my head and they with confirm with a yes or a no. Some times the pointer will kinda go to one hesitantly to signify there is more too it. I'm in the "training wheel" stage of channeling. lol

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I'm an 3rd old soul priest-scholor casted-, so I love teaching people everything I know. I have this motto I picked up from somewhere "Learn something about everything, and everything about something" My 'something' is MT. The thing is, all my friends I grown up with are lacking in the abstact thought department. I told one friend of mine who doesn't believe in a soul nor reincarnation about it. Such a headache, but I enjoy a challenge. >:)

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Some of my LGBT friends also have found the soul ages information helpful.

I always thought that if you have been incarnating in a female or male body for an extending amount of time, then decide to pursue lessons of the other sex, you'll still feel more connected to the previous sex you've been for so long.  It's not like once you go from sex to sex you get a complete 180 flip on perception each time.

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Paranormal / Paranormal Witness
« on: November 03, 2011, 09:27:15 AM »
okay, so I've watched Paranormal witness, and seen episode 3 which has real poltergiest footage. To say the least, its creepy. Has there been channeling done that could explain how exactly this happens? How does something just move objects everywhere around the room, possess at will, and make attempts to kill you? I've seen another one where "vox" comes from an ouija board and torments everyone. As an occasional oujia user(mostly to contact Michael but not very well), this creeps me the f out.

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I don't know about everyone here, but for me, its awkward when trying to describe where it comes from. It's almost instantaneous that questions start to arise, and suspicion of a cult following creeps in. You then have to go on and describe in detail beliefs of reincarnation, life after death, the tao, other worlds ect... A lot of my friends suspect I'm delusional. I keep telling them that its not a spiritual teachings to enlightenment, but a mere template to understand the energetic vibrational flows and structure of the cosmic universe we reside in. Although most people I have trouble telling it too, are early mature. I don't even attempt with anything below that.

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Past Lives & Reincarnation / Re: Two Past Life Regressions (Dave)
« on: October 13, 2011, 05:30:52 AM »
Wow, reading these really blew me away. Is it just a meditation exercise you do to go into trace state or something? I'm curious about doing myself. Apparently I asked Michael if I had lived in Japan because of my fondness of ancient Japanese culture. To my own amusement I had one life in the 17th century as a fisherman, farmer and another as a Samurai in the 11th century. I was popular, and had 8 kids, yeah those are the only facts i asked for. . .

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