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The Seven Centers / Male Moving Centred World

« on: September 04, 2011, 02:06:22 AM »

Hey, do you know when Michael said this world is all messed up and agressive because it is male and moving centred? And that Soleal's world is feminine and intellectually centred, and way better.

Lets change the centre.

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General Discussion / Re: Robert Burton

« on: September 04, 2011, 02:01:46 AM »

Yeah man, what's up with that? This guy right http://www.beingpresent.org/index.php?toc=Robert-Earl-Burton I don't know anything about him, but if he was sexually coercive that is very messed up.

It made me doubt 'Michael' a little bit. Someone should ask Michael for updates on this guy, if he isn't a creep. I duno, I didn't get too into the website, it didn't really resonate with me.

In the transcripts it also said there was someone alive who was going to refute the bible and stuff. I would like updates on that. Did he change his mind?

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The Seven Attitudes / Re: Strange thoughts in Stoic Attitude

« on: September 04, 2011, 01:50:36 AM »

I have these thoughts too and I'm a stoic. I think about wanting to be more independent... is just a symptom of a very, very unideal world. Feeling powerless, due to unideal, to say the least, circumstances... can definitely put a stoic into resignation. Or put anyone for that matter into a negative place. But lucky? for us, we have our gray blanket blinder on. You probably have the freedom need, too. Maybe you can try to put more spontaneity into your life, not that you need advice, but that helps me out. For example, I don't really go to the mall but the other day I just went. It was an interesting change of scenery.

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False Personality / Re: Attraction to things, that don't make you happy

« on: September 02, 2011, 05:08:11 AM »

I think it's complicated but one thing is that if you set up in your mind you can't have something, even if you know you don't want it, it actually makes you want it.

But even this idea is controlled by another much stronger idea, which is that mostly I think society is extremely, extremely messed up and/because it is not set up in a way that promotes/values learning through joy and positivity. For ex, if people weren't so stressed and had adequate social support, I think most negative things wouldn't really be happening. There is no reason people should be so stressed - and this stress comes from fighting over resources. There is no reason that should happen. And there is no reason people should be so isolated. We have to change the way it is set up. Most of the things that happen here are basically a waste of life, IMHO.

Looking back over times when I was negatively embroiled, I think if there was an adequate social net I would have quite swiftly and easily walked away. Just my two cents.

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King / Re: Famous Kings (that I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere)

« on: August 12, 2011, 11:02:06 PM »

I think they are kings because they have lots of mastery. Haha... um... also if you watch the way people react to them. It also seems to me the look in their eyes. Umm... haha.

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King / Famous Kings (that I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere)

« on: August 11, 2011, 03:32:30 AM »

Beyonce Knowles
Solange Knowles
Mandy Moore
Dorris Lessing
Jennifer Aniston
Joan Cusack
John Cusack
Matthew Perry
Ryan Reynolds
Adele
Robyn
Gary Taubes (writer)
Gabor Mate (healer/writer)
Kirstin Dunst
David Letterman
Zoey Deschanel
Thom Yorke
John Mayer

That's all I can think of for now.

Yesterday I was wondering if Frida Kahlo was a King, but she seems pretty artisan like in the eyes and also her work is very kind of, psychic. Also I was wondering if David Byrne is, but I looked him up and his eyes are somewhat liquidy like artisan, but also somewhat direct.

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Soul Age / Re: Young Soul Contributions

« on: July 27, 2011, 05:45:53 AM »

I wonder what Soleal would have to say about young souls on his world.

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General Discussion / Re: Side

« on: June 18, 2011, 12:45:51 AM »

i think the side you are on could be relevant. out of those three i am probably most interested in truth. this can explain why i may seem to be more of a stickler for the exact truth to others, which could lead to greater acceptance etc.

for example, i have a friend who i would say is more interested in beauty. sometimes it seems that my words come across as a little brash to her. she says things to me like... that's a little harsh, or, that was ugly. haha? she seems to be more interested in things going smoothly than actually acknowledging and examining every facet of the truth. if we have an argument she is more interested in the tone of the whole thing, whereas i focus in on the precise misunderstanding we had.

perhaps minor in the large scheme of things though as you are sayin, yeah. and these qualities could be attributed to other things, other aspects of personality.

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The Roles (or Soul Types) / Re: What it's like to be a (fill in the role)....

« on: June 15, 2011, 08:19:43 PM »

hi chiara! word.   hey, kings and servers make a good team! school definitely applies but when i wrote that i was thinking more of national leaders who are not stearing the ship in a good way. for example, the current prime minister in canada who started the tar sands (oil extraction) up. this was a greedy and destructive decision to say the least. one which benefits few and harms many. i was also thinking of some groups i've been in.

speaking of leadership,
http://www.messagesfrommichael.com/messages/phys_destiny.html

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The Roles (or Soul Types) / Re: What it's like to be a (fill in the role)....

« on: June 15, 2011, 05:15:38 PM »

i duno if this is typical but i'm a server and i think about what i would do if i was the leader. like how i would organize things better, clean up the surroundings, and sort of like how the tone of things should be set. i find a lot of people are not very warm or strong, for various reasons, maybe because they're insecure, and it makes the mood of the group bad. i think a lot about how to help the physical health of people too. i feel frustrated a lot because i see that things could be done much more efficiently and with a better spirit, but since the wrong people are the leaders everything gets stuck behind. i notice how the good of everyone is not a priority for them. obviously it can be very appalling to see individual gluttony and the destruction it brings. it makes me mad and i feel those people are not very smart or honorable, do not deserve to be leader and should not be accepted as such. i also feel like extending kindness and acceptance to people who are shy, ostracized or having a bad time. and i feel like defending them. many people probably feel that way though.  

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The Nine Needs / Re: Freedom

« on: June 09, 2011, 04:16:52 PM »

I would not say the root causes of most diseases are well understood. A low carbohydrate diet helps to control diabetes. I am no diabetes expert, see Dr. Bernstein, but yeah. Bad dietary, medical advice causes diabetes. People didn`t get most illnesses before. Gary Taubes is my reference for this.

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The Nine Needs / Re: Freedom

« on: June 09, 2011, 03:38:43 PM »

Hi jk, on one hand I think I see what you`re saying, but on ther other, your comment about my analogy seems a bit too individualistic or isolating to me. If doctors and society understood diabetes, people wouldn`t be getting it as much or at all and more happiness would abound. It`s like... if abuse was properly dealt with, people dealing with it would have more recourse to action to get out of bad situations. If the fullness of why school is and can be wrong was understood, more enlightened options would proliferate. I don`t think it is just for the person who is dealing with the adversity to deal with... that`s the attitude that gets the world into so many problems. Things could move along so much better and joyfully and sensibly.

I still appreciate what you said, because it seems responsible to just be like 'Ok I`ll deal with this strange situation myself', and not think about how it should be. Also I am glad you said things can challenge your need for Freedom at work, too, because while I am aware of that perhaps I don`t fully appreciate it. I have been forgetting how stiltifying bad jobs can be, and the goal of this is to basically be my own boss. I also like what you said about having to and wanting to... I do probably want the course because it will help me get to the goal.

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The Nine Needs / Re: Freedom

« on: June 09, 2011, 08:14:34 AM »

It`s a really confusing time, because I don`t believe in school. I think it is wrong on so many levels. On one hand I don`t want to put too fine a point on it, but... I think it is another form of institutionalization. So while I can appreciate that it is a way to get ahead, and that it is an opportunity others don`t have, it is also another flawed and extremely detrimental system to be a part of. It`s like say you are diabetic. It is fortunate for you to be able to have the money to access meds for your ailment, but better yet would be that the doctors and the society actually understand the true causes of diabetes so you don`t get sick in the first place, or so you don`t get improper treatment once you have it. 

But I feel, for various reasons which I duno if I should bother getting into, that I have to do this, like it is basically my destiny. But I also feel like it is smart in life to eliminate all of the suffering you can, or in other words, LEARN THROUGH JOY. Michael has said this is possible. Why suffer? I would just be working at some crappy job if I wasn`t in school, probably. (But anything is possible, maybe I could make my dreams come true doing that, too.) Would that make me happier? Would I feel more free? Sometimes I think I would be, it feels sometimes like I have to quit to just be able to live, unfortunately. Like today for instance, I had to work on a paper and it gave me such extreme anxiety, it really feels like it is crushing everything out of me, and making me suicidal on a regular basis, sorry to say. Bleh, but yeah, it really may lead me to be free in the future, so I don`t know. Which option to trust? The question beguiles me. Last but not least there is the chance I may like the actual program better than the prereqs. Perhaps there is a way to learn through joy, even in a trying circumstance? Perhaps not liking it is just a habit that can be changed?

School can be very traumatizing. I just feel better putting that out there. Like so many other things on earth, it can be such an alienating experience. I still appreciate both of your comments, this is just another side to the coin from my pov. Sometimes I just have to share all my feelings which also relates to the Freedom need? Haha.

ps hi Chiara, I like that! 

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The Nine Needs / Re: Freedom

« on: June 08, 2011, 11:18:02 PM »

Thanks so much for your reply! It does help, those are really good points that help to shine some light on this for me. 

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The Nine Needs / Re: Freedom

« on: June 08, 2011, 11:00:32 PM »

Thank you for your reply! Good to know I am not alone in the feelings. Thems are some good tips too!

I unfortunately have to take these courses as prerequisites. Hopefully I will like things better after this. Or else I may have to do something crazy.

Ps- Did you get your needs chanelled or just read them and validate for yourself? Because I didn't get mine chanelled, and most of the needs I read feel like needs I have. Like communion, adventure, expansion, freedom, and acceptance all sort of get my goat. I may not be using that idiom correctly . Maybe I'm just extra needy?  haha