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Suggestions/Help / Signature lines
« on: April 17, 2011, 06:02:45 AM »
Dave, it seems that the sig line feature currently limits us to one letter. I don't know about you, but I'm just not that pithy!

Essence Twins / Re: Essence Twins/Couldn't Care Less
« on: April 17, 2011, 05:43:49 AM »
Rosey, it's odd -- he won't really read any MT himself, but he loves hearing about it from me, and gets a lot out of it that way. He's also been to a few channeling sessions, and he's gotten a lot from those too.

I would love to hear Michael's answer to your question about why you grew up in the same neighborhood but aren't really involved with each other. I'm imagining some story like you guys do this over and over just to be near each other without getting in each other's way, or something like that :)

Past Lives & Reincarnation / Re: Dave's Life Between Lives Session
« on: April 17, 2011, 05:14:31 AM »
Dave, that was awesome.

Essence Twins / Re: Essence Twins/Couldn't Care Less
« on: April 16, 2011, 07:56:56 PM »
I'm married to my ET, and we've been in each others' lives for the last 13 years. I would guess that your ET just isn't interested in doing the ET thing with you. Once you start engaging with your ET, it's like a rollercoaster you can't get off of. Every button that can be pushed by each other will be pushed, all the time, almost without relief. Understandably, most people aren't interested in that.

King / Re: The King Presence
« on: April 16, 2011, 07:19:46 PM »
Hello, fellow King! I was really messed up by the King thing for a long time, because my CF was arrogance. That whole thing where everyone is paying attention to you for no apparent reason can really wreak havoc with someone who flips from thinking they are totally superior to other people to thinking they are utterly worthless, i.e. "They are staring at me because I am so awesome they wish they were like me!" vs. "They are staring at me because I suck so bad they can hardly stand to be in the same room with me!!" Talk about a recipe for destructive neurosis! It took me ages and a hell of a lot of pain and suffering to get that garbage under control.

I think being a performer (opera singer) helps give me a frame for the special attention that a King gets (I'm also in Power mode, so that bumps things up a lot more, too). I guess I just see it now as something I have that I can give other people. It makes them feel good to be around a King, and I'm a nice person who goes out of her way to be kind to people, so I figure that if I can infuse that King/Power mode energy with that kindness and love, humor, and gentle teaching when the opportunity arises, that can't be anything but a positive contribution. When you're a King, even smiling generously at someone who notices you is enough to give off a little ball of good energy, and you can be on your way knowing you left a little gift behind. It's just important to know that it works like that not because we're so freaking special and superior, but just because we happen to have this specific energy configuration whose job it is to do that for people. It's not really about our personalities or our worth at all. I am also Server cast, so I think that helps me see the service aspect of the King role very clearly.

Of course there will always be people who don't like you because of your Kingliness, who suspect your motives and feel threatened by you. Those are probably people who have issues with power and self-esteem themselves, and they're good practice for learning to balance kindness and tolerance with firmness and boundaries :D

Blah blah blah! Time for mouthy King to shut up! :D

Soul Age / Re: Soul Age. How to spot it
« on: April 16, 2011, 05:18:31 PM »
I thought all old souls looked and acted like The Dude?! Are you telling me thats just a caricature?

Ahahah! We are all the Dude inside, cleverly disguised as respectable citizens.

Introductions / Re: Introductions
« on: April 16, 2011, 05:16:08 PM »
I suppose I should say a few words about myself. (Down Igor! Not that 25 words or less jazz!)

John, you are one of the original seekers! Awesome! Old Scholar/Artisan sounds totally perfect judging from the energy of this one post :D

Introductions / Re: Introductions
« on: April 16, 2011, 05:13:28 PM »
Hi Chiara!

Lovely name, btw.

Nice to see you here.  :)

Susan (the oboist)

Thanks Susan -- I'm a soprano, and there are sooo many beautiful pieces written for soprano and oboe :)

Introductions / Re: Introductions
« on: April 16, 2011, 05:12:32 PM »
Hi Chiara! :)

I'm a 'newer' student, but am also a King (6th Mature).
Not sure how often I'll be posting here but it'd be nice to have some future kingly conversations with you. ;)  

Absolutely, Elisabeth -- there aren't too many of us around, apparently! :D

Soul Age / Re: Mature & Old Souls
« on: April 16, 2011, 04:56:25 PM »
That is the interesting things about mature souls -- they are plenty spiritually complex! I think the analogy to the human life cycle is very apt -- when you are dealing with a teenager, you are dealing with someone who basically has the psychological complexity of an adult. It's just that they are new to having that adult complexity, so they are seeking their identity and how they fit into the world with this new complexity of consciousness. Also, they are flooded with hormones that impel them to get into intense/karmic situations (sex, love, social stuff). I think that's a pretty good description of the mature soul in the world, sans hormones of course :D

As another example of mature soul complexity, I notice that while young souls cannot "get" me at all, mature souls actually kind of can. They tend to see true things about old souls (sometimes very penetratingly or shockingly, because we're used to kind of being invisible in the young soul society!), but where they sometimes go off is in their interpretation. That makes perfect sense if you consider that it's hard to understand a place you haven't actually been yet! They can SEE it, but they don't get what it means to ME, as I have different focuses and values than they do.

Soul Age / Re: Mature & Old Souls
« on: April 14, 2011, 03:39:32 AM »
I have some rules of thumb I follow to figure this out:

Big Picture vs. People Picture

Mature souls are able to take forays into the big picture, and they are very interested in it, but their primary focus is still very much on people and their doings. There is a lot of attachment and worry about goings-on between people. Old souls focus very naturally on the big picture, and they are a lot more philosophical about life in general and about the doings of other people.

Searching Eyes vs. Mellow Eyes

Mature souls have a kind of a searching and hopeful look in their eyes, where old soul eyes look more mellow and relaxed, often with a humorous glint.

Energy and Presentation

In general, the mature soul has a more nervous, coltish energy about them, where an old soul will seem more rounded and mellow. Also, mature souls are more socially acceptable. They may be "counter cultural," trying to change the young soul culture, but they're still very much part of the culture. Old souls, on the other hand, can be total eccentrics without even trying to be or realizing that they are. They are also trying to change things, but in their own special old soul way, which everyone else may think is totally worthless or non-existent. Old souls can come off as strangely lazy or purposeless (not that they are, just that they come off that way to other soul ages), where mature souls always appear to be striving for a goal, though the goals are different than those of young soul goals, obviously.

For me, it's the focus on people vs. big picture that really clinches it when it seems like the person could go either way.

Introductions / Introductions
« on: April 13, 2011, 10:25:13 PM »
Hi all --

My name is Chiara and I'm a longtime (nearly 20 years) Michael student. I was on Dave's e-mail list and came here to join the discussion! Hope to have fruitful and engaging talks with all of you :)


P.S. 6th level old King here!

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