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Sabine

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Internal Monads
« on: April 13, 2011, 09:09:24 AM »
what scared me after reading about the monads was the business of exiting the 4th in the negative pole. it sounds like your soul has abandoned you and the rest of the life is wasted. any ideas about this?


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Re: Internal Monads
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2011, 03:32:53 PM »
what scared me after reading about the monads was the business of exiting the 4th in the negative pole. it sounds like your soul has abandoned you and the rest of the life is wasted. any ideas about this?



If Essence thought the rest of the life was going to be wasted, you wouldn't be here. To paraphrase Helmuth von Moltke the Elder "No plan survives contact with reality." Essence is well aware of this, and will usually manage to salvage something from even the worst screwup. If it doesn't think it'll get something valuable from the experience, it won't waste the energy continuing the lifetime.

As one of those general rules with lots of exceptions, finishing the fourth internal monad in the negative pole happens quite frequently in the first lifetime of a soul age level. It's called experience.

HTH

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Re: Internal Monads
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2011, 08:08:01 AM »
Sabine can you cite what exactly you have read? It sounds a little odd.

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Re: Internal Monads
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2011, 11:09:44 PM »
i don't remember site.

it also said all levels must finished before moving to next soul level. true or not?

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Re: Internal Monads
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 07:34:50 AM »
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it also said all levels must finished before moving to next soul level. true or not?
That is what I have heard from Michael channeling too.

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Re: Internal Monads
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 08:01:42 PM »
i don't remember site.

it also said all levels must finished before moving to next soul level. true or not?

That's originally mentioned in Yarbro's MFM. It's not new material. I don't recall the chapter but if it's important to you I can do some research later and find the exact passage.

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Re: Internal Monads
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2011, 02:45:25 PM »
These are a couple of quotes from the first book.

As John points out below, these have to do with external monads:

What exactly are monads, sequences, and agreements?
A MONAD IS AN ESSENTIAL UNIT, A NECESSARY
EXPERIENCE.  THEY OFTEN TAKE MORE THAN ONE LIFE
TO ACCOMPLISH.  BOTH CHEMISTRY AND PHILOSOPHY
TEACH THAT A MONAD IS ELEMENTAL AND
INDIVISIBLE.  THERE ARE A VERY LARGE NUMBER OF
MONADS, SOME OF THEM INTERPERSONAL, SOME OF
THEM INTRAPERSONAL.
THE MOST COMMON MONAD IS PARENT/CHILD AND
STUDENT/TEACHER THE PARENT/CHILD MONAD IS
USUALLY ACCOMPLISHED IN THE YOUNG-SOUL CYCLE,
THE STUDENT/TEACHER MONAD IN THE MATURE- AND
OLD-SOUL CYCLES.  THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT ALL
SUCH RELATIONSHIPS ARE MONADAL.  THE MONAD IS
DONE ONLY ONCE.  IN OTHER WORDS, THERE IS ONLY
ONE TIME THAT YOU WILL EXPERIENCE THE CHILD SIDE
OF THE PARENT/CHILD MONAD, AND ONLY ONCE THAT
YOU WILL EXPERIENCE THE PARENT SIDE.  YOU WILL
EXPERIENCE THESE MONADS WITH THE SAME SOUL.  THE
TEACHER WHO TEACHES YOU IN THE STUDENT/TEACHER
MONAD WILL BE THE SAME SOUL THAT WILL BE YOUR
STUDENT.

Another.....

SINCE A MONAD IS A COMPLETE LIFE EXPERIENCE AND
CONSISTS OF A BLOCK OF KNOWLEDGE, THE
INTERRUPTION OF IT REQUIRES THAT YOU START IT
AGAIN IN ANOTHER LIFE AND FINISH IT.  COMPLETION
OF SPECIFIC MONADS IS PART OF THE EVOLUTION OF
THE SOUL, AND IT IS NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THE
MONADS IN ORDER TO ADVANCE THROUGH THE LEVELS
OF THE CYCLES.
  IT IS NOT ENTIRELY INAPT TO SAY THAT
MONADS HAVE SOME OF THE EFFECT ON THE
EVOLUTION OF THE SOUL THAT EDUCATION DOES ON
THE PERSONALITY.  A CHILD MUST LEARN TO DRAW IN
ORDER TO DEVELOP THE EYE-AND-HAND
COORDINATION NECESSARY IN READING AND
WRITING, AND IN A SIMILAR SENSE, THERE ARE
MONADS THAT MUST BE EXPERIENCED BEFORE THE
FRAGMENT IS READY FOR THE NEXT STEP.
WE DO NOT MEAN TO IMPLY THAT THERE IS A SET
STRUCTURE FOR THIS AND THAT EVERYONE, UPON
REACHING MID-CYCLE YOUNG, WILL AUTOMATICALLY
DO THE PARENT SIDE OF THE PARENT/CHILD MONAD.
THE FRAGMENT CHOOSES BETWEEN LIVES WHICH OF
THE INTERPERSONAL MONADS IT WILL ACCOMPLISH.
THE INTRA-PERSONAL ONES, OF COURSE, ARE PART OF
LIFE.
Suppose that for some reason it isn’t possible to complete a
monad — what then?
THAT IS YOUR CHOICE.  YOU WILL DO IT IN SOME
OTHER LIFE.

This one has to do with the internal:

Is there only that one major crisis associated with an
individual life?
NO, THERE ARE OTHERS.
Seven?
OF COURSE.  THE FIRST IS BIRTH, WHEN THE BODY IS
ENSOULED.
The body is ensouled at birth?  Not before?
NO, NOT BEFORE.  THE BEHAVIOR IN UTERO IS A
FUNCTION OF BODY TYPE.
THE SECOND MONAD — OR, IF YOU WOULD PREFER TO
IDENTIFY IT IN ANOTHER WAY, WE WILL CALL IT A
MILESTONE — OCCURS WHEN THE FRAGMENT REALIZES
THAT IT IS SURROUNDED BY OTHERS WHO ARE DISTINCT
AND DIFFERENT FROM ITSELF AND THAT THOSE OTHERS
CAN INFLUENCE IT EMOTIONALLY AND
INTELLECTUALLY AS WELL AS INSTINCTIVELY.  THIS
MILESTONE USUALLY TAKES PLACE AT ABOUT AGE TWO.
OBVIOUSLY, IN VERY YOUNG SOULS THIS RECOGNITION
IS LESS REALIZED THAN IN OLDER SOULS.
THE THIRD MILESTONE OCCURS AT THE ONSET OF
YOUNG ADULTHOOD WHEN THE FRAGMENT IS OUT OF
“THE NEST.” ALL OF CHILDHOOD OCCURS BETWEEN THE
SECOND AND THE THIRD MILESTONE.
THE FOURTH MILESTONE IS THE SO-CALLED MID-LIFE
CRISIS THAT OCCURS AROUND AGE THIRTY-FIVE AT THE
MANIFESTATION OF THE ESSENCE.
THE FIFTH MILESTONE OCCURS IN LIFE WHEN THE
FRAGMENT IS A SENIOR CITIZEN, AND HAS TO DO IN
PART WITH THE RECONCILIATION OF THE ASPIRATIONS
WITH THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE PARTICULAR
LIFE.
THE SIXTH OCCURS AT THE TIME OF THE ONSET OF
THE FINAL PHYSICAL DETERIORATION AND IS CONCERNED
WITH THE DYNAMICS OF THE DYING PROCESS. 
THE SEVENTH, OF COURSE, IS THE EXIT ITSELF.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED HERE THAT IF THIS PROCESS IS
INTERRUPTED DURING A LIFETIME, FOR INSTANCE BY
VIOLENT OR EARLY DEATH FROM ILLNESS, THE
FRAGMENT RARELY ADVANCES A LEVEL.  A FRAGMENT
CAN USUALLY ADVANCE THROUGH A LEVEL OF
EXPERIENCE ONLY BY GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRE
PROCESS.
Is this inevitably the case?
NO.  THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE AGREEMENTS REQUIRE
OTHER EXPERIENCES.  WE REMIND YOU THAT YOU MUST
EXPERIENCE ALL OF LIFE, SO THERE WILL BE TIMES THAT
YOU WILL CHOOSE TO DIE YOUNG, TO DIE VIOLENTLY,
TO DIE OF ILLNESS, TO INTERRUPT A LEVEL SO THAT
FURTHER LEARNING MAY OCCUR.  THERE ARE ALSO THE
KARMIC RIBBONS TO BE BURNED AND THEY
OCCASIONALLY ENTAIL THE EARLY TERMINATION OF A
LIFE.  BECAUSE OF THIS A FRAGMENT DWILL SOMETIMES
REQUIRE TWO LIVES OF A VERY SIMILAR NATURE TO
COMPLETE THE MONADS.  THERE IS ONE MEMBER OF
THIS CADRE WHOSE PREVIOUS TWO LIVES WERE
ACTUALLY THE COMPLETION OF ONE LIFE.  IN BOTH
LIVES, THE FRAGMENT OPPOSED THE POLITICAL SYSTEM,
WHICH WAS IN UPHEAVAL, FOR HUMANITARIAN AND
PHILOSOPHICAL REASONS, AND IN BOTH LIVES DIED AS
A RESULT, AT AGE TWENTY-SEVEN.  THE LATTER LIFE
WAS A COMPLETION OF THE MONADS OF THE EARLIER
LIFE.
Does this happen very often?
WE WOULD SAY SO, YES.

I hope this was helpful.

Stu
« Last Edit: June 16, 2011, 03:02:52 PM by Stu »

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Re: Internal Monads
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2011, 02:52:56 PM »
These are a couple of quotes from the first book.

Stu

I think the question was on the internal monads, not the external monads. Those quotes are about the external monads.

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Re: Internal Monads
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2011, 02:55:07 PM »
They are actually about both.

Just thought I would mention that I recall Michael saying (elsewhere I guess), that you do not necessarily complete the other side of an external monad with the same person, which feels more likely to me. I can look up the reference if people are interested.

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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2011, 10:40:18 PM »
They are actually about both.

Just thought I would mention that I recall Michael saying (elsewhere I guess), that you do not necessarily complete the other side of an external monad with the same person, which feels more likely to me. I can look up the reference if people are interested.

I don't remember that. I'd be interested in seeing where it comes from.

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Re: Internal Monads
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2011, 05:26:11 PM »
John, after some painstaking searching (all the words involved figure in all Michael documents MANY times :)), I have found it. It is in the second document of the original transcripts, p 6. They talk about teacher-pupil monad and ask if it always have to be completed with the same person. The answer is "Sometimes, not always"