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"Growth" Sucks !
« on: April 20, 2011, 07:05:46 AM »
OK, I'll drop my outrage and frustration and self-righteous condemnation here, as I describe the reasons for how a Goal Of Growth leads to affront of all those emotional reaction triggers and more  .  .  .  AND THAT IS JUST HOW IT AFFECTS THE AFFLICTED FRAGMENT  .  .  .  Dave was the first Michael Channel to effectively communicate to me the impact a character that cares ONLY for their own expansive outcomes can have on themselves and others.

Personally, I remember in EVERY lifetime, AND year, every month, and every hour when I went hungry AND was mistreated by other Dharma imprisoned inmates!  I remember every time up hungry but couldn't eat because if i did, my family would have no food.  I remember everytime I had to plant my food, and go to bed hungry, so that I MIGHT have food to eat if I made it to the fall. (You get the picture).  Evidently some Essences are more sadistic than others, and no small few prefer to use hunger as an 'effective' goad to Growth!

I can remember close to 120 lives where I, or a member of my family, or someone my Essence owed however many "3-squares" went hungry or made me go hungry.  Growth sucks !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2011, 06:14:16 PM »
Wait a minute -- I'm in Growth and I don't remember every one of my lifetimes!

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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2011, 12:19:47 AM »
There is no correlation I can see between The Goal and Past-Life Viewing capabilities, except in special situations
involving Scholars and Kings. Sorry. I have access (infrequent and intermittant) to memories of the mentioned
lifetimes (but not in great or total detail).  I can remember the "hungry" lifetimes because I promised myself I would! The cruelty of what I thought were life situations caused by the ineptitude of the "Architect" when my lifetime was Buddhist, or the evil madness of the "Demi-Urgos" when the lifetime was Gnostic etc, propelled me on the path to defining, for myself, a theory about the reasons for such senseless suffering.  Of course the fact that I was trained in how to be an 'effective' MKULTRA Psychic by our Government thislife might have helped my ability to get little 'flashes' from Past Lives.  Remember also that Sages have that 'triple input' capacity and this can be used in a variety of ways to enhance recollection of 'buried' data that may be lurking unseen in the Sage's Astral experience buffers.
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2011, 05:18:46 PM »
I do growth and I love it !! Tho I get bored easily and boredom gets me into trouble. As a younger person I remembered many of my past lives. I was very attached to my memories and had to learn to let them go. I go through periods of tremendous growth and then down time spent processing. I'd like to find out if others with growth have issues with remembering their past lives.

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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2011, 05:40:44 PM »
I'm in growth, and I don't remember anything about any past lives.  Don't know whether it's the growth or something else.  Maybe I've blocked them in order to deal with this life, or something like that. 

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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2011, 06:29:04 PM »
I don't love being in Growth, but it's what I got, so I make the best of it :D

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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2011, 07:59:26 PM »
Well, growth is certainly popular at 40% of the population. Michael also said it's the most challenging goal, so for those who struggle with it don't feel so bad.

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2011, 08:43:48 PM »
Well, growth is certainly popular at 40% of the population.


Clearly, essence is an idiot :D

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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2011, 08:55:21 PM »
Ah, growth is for Viagra commercials. Next time try Flow, where your essence leaves you alone and vacations somewhere in the Land of Lint.  ;)

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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2011, 09:40:32 PM »
Ah, growth is for Viagra commercials. Next time try Flow, where your essence leaves you alone and vacations somewhere in the Land of Lint.  ;)


Ahhhhh....yesssss! :)

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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2011, 01:25:01 PM »
My husband is in growth (found this out thru his chart done with mine thru a channeler).   this is all so new to him,  having both of us coming from kinda religious path with limits and boundaries but always knowing that it was not meant to be like that. 

as I broke away in 2006 from being catholic, he has understood and felt freer to look into other friendlier paths than evangelical methodist (he had been doing this for awhile since he was a military chaplain asst in the army for 16 years).

okay, that is the background. but he gets confused alot. bewildered,  and is always talking about he needs to get his brain into more clarity.  more focus. 

Having just finished the Tao to Earth Book by Jose Stephens,  is this what i gather to be just one of the many things to deal with with the goal of growth?

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2011, 04:23:44 PM »
Evidently some Essences are more sadistic than others, and no small few prefer to use hunger as an 'effective' goad to Growth!

I can remember close to 120 lives where I, or a member of my family, or someone my Essence owed however many "3-squares" went hungry or made me go hungry.  Growth sucks !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jon, that is not a very fair satement.  You could give some the impression that there is good and evil in relation to essence, which is not the case.  The experiences which any fragments have are for the purpose of growth and learning.  Growth is progress.  Attaching positive or negative conotation to any of it is the work of maya and is done out of fear caused by confusion.  Confusion is the negative pole of growth.

Likewise, focusing all one's time and energy on past lives only prevents one from working on this life.  It would appear that the negative pole (self hatred) of self destruction is plotting the current personality against the essence.  Kind of ingenious when you think about it.

I would enjoy to further discuss your overleaves if you have the time and desire.

Stu

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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2011, 03:20:51 AM »
Evidently some Essences are more sadistic than others, and no small few prefer to use hunger as an 'effective' goad to Growth!

I can remember close to 120 lives where I, or a member of my family, or someone my Essence owed however many "3-squares" went hungry or made me go hungry.  Growth sucks !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jon, that is not a very fair satement.  You could give some the impression that there is good and evil in relation to essence, which is not the case.  The experiences which any fragments have are for the purpose of growth and learning.  Growth is progress.  Attaching positive or negative conotation to any of it is the work of maya and is done out of fear caused by confusion.  Confusion is the negative pole of growth.

Likewise, focusing all one's time and energy on past lives only prevents one from working on this life.  It would appear that the negative pole (self hatred) of self destruction is plotting the current personality against the essence.  Kind of ingenious when you think about it.

I would enjoy to further discuss your overleaves if you have the time and desire.

Stu

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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2011, 02:51:28 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2011, 02:20:52 PM »
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